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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Cornwall & the Framework Convention (FCPNM) 2007 Reply with quote

The Advisory Committee's Opinion and the UK's predictable response are now available here

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All comments welcome: http://thecornishdemocrat.blogspot.com/2007/11/national-minority-denied.html
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:02 pm    Post subject: Conspiracy? Reply with quote

From post on C24...

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Bearing in mind that the ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON THE FRAMEWORK CONVENTION FOR
THE PROTECTION OF NATIONAL MINORITIES, Second Opinion on the United Kingdom,

http://www.coe....OP_UK_en.pdf

Adopted on 6 June 2007 stated at Parag. 33 that:

"The Advisory Committee notes that the Government of the United Kingdom has not accepted the representations made by Cornish organisations and individuals concerning the possible inclusion of the Cornish under the Framework Convention’s scope of application. These representations, which began as the submission of information concerning the Celtic identity and the specific history, language and culture of the Cornish, have gained in magnitude over the years, culminating most recently in an application for judicial review concerning the Government’s non-inclusion of the Cornish in the second State Report. The Advisory Committee considers that the “racial group” criterion, which requires a Court to determine liability in a claim of racial discrimination, appears to be too rigid to accommodate the situation of the Cornish, whose “separate identity and distinctiveness” is recognised by the Government of the United Kingdom in their second State Report",.....

Is it somewhat surprising and perplexing that, in....

Resolution CM/ResCMN(2008)7 on the implementation of the Framework Convention
by the United Kingdom (Adopted by the Committee of Ministers on 9 July 2008
at the 1032nd meeting of the Ministers' Deputies),

http://www.coe....es_UK_en.pdf

there is not one solitary, single mention of the Cornish in the said recommendation. Frankly, it beggars belief!

What more evidence do people in general and certain members of this forum need to convince them that something very, very unsavoury is going on here!

Please also bear in mind that Section 40, (2), g of the Crown Proceedings Act (1947) states that the Duke of Cornwall can 'control or otherwise intervene inb proceedings that affect his rights, property and profits', an unjust, discriminatory provision that would now appear to be included within the modus operandi of the Council of Europe. There sure seems to be a secret here that nobody wants to acknowledge!! What are MPs doing about this? What are Cornish NGOs doing about it?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The AC have thrown their hands up in horror at the legal intricacies of the Cornish Question because it was too much for them. Yet we, as a people, are not asking for anything special or unreasonable. We want formal acceptance of our existence, and a regular framework that will support a continuation of the Cornish existence especially in Cornwall. This, because it is a legal issue must be done in a Court of Law. In reality, and in effect, the only possible way that the Cornish can lay claim to what is ours by right is to engage with the European Court of Human Rights (which is not the same as the Council of Europe). They, as a surprising matter of fact, have the wherewithal to sort this out.

So we have that. We have a place we can go to who have the legal authority to unravel the Cornish cat’s cradle and to establish that Cornish people (unlike at present) may legitimately and openly be something other than English.

We also, as a people, have an offer on the table. It is an offer of real value to the Cornish and almost certainly to any future generations of Cornish that there might be.
The proposal comes from Cornwall 2000:

“The rules state that to have a case accepted [in the European Court of Human Rights], all domestic avenues of redress must have been exhausted. This means having a case summarily dismissed, not only at the High Court, but also at the Appeal Court and the House of Lords, thus exposing us to potentially large adverse defence costs. These are costs that Government will deliberately rack up in an attempt to prevent our challenge from continuing.

No doubt, readers will be incensed by what has happened , and will wish to do what they can to right the wrong. We, in Cornwall 2000, are volunteering to be the conduit by which you can channel your feelings of injustice into positive action. We have determination and experience and we can mount the legal challenge outlined above. However, before such a challenge can begin, we need to raise £100 000 to cover potential adverse costs. The structure for the administration of the fund is as follows.

Pledges of support (not actual donations of money) should be forwarded to the address on the back of this book [contact johnangarrack@d...fcornwall.eu for this address as I don‘t like to put anybody’s address on the internet]. If, and only if, the required sum is reached, a meeting of donors pledging £500 or more will be called. At this meeting, a chairman, secretary and treasurer will be democratically elected. A dedicated bank account will be opened and donors will be asked to make the promised payment into that account. As happened in the last two Cornwall 2000 legal actions, the account will require multiple signatories to release funds, and funds can only be drawn to cover direct legal costs incurred in the case. At the conclusion of the challenge, unused funds are returned to donors in a proportional manner as per previous legal challenges.

Timing is of the essence…..That is why we need to move as quickly as we can. The legal challenge should be timed to coincide with the Council of Europe timetable for Government submitting its third Framework Convention compliance report - sometime in early 2009. Therefore, the cut off date for making pledges will be 31st December 2008. If by that date, the strategy outlined has not gathered the required level of support, we shall assume that the Cornish community does not cherish its identity or care that it survives.”
(John Angarrack, Scat t’Larrups?)

Angarrack continues:

“I make no promises, and I have no wish to raise false hope. However, unless we take this course of action there is no hope at all for Cornish people. To avoid any charge of failing to put my own money where my mouth is, I hereby guarantee the first pledge in the sum of £5000”.
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