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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:32 am    Post subject: Government of Cornwall Bill Reply with quote

"PLANS for Cornwall to follow Wales and Scotland in breaking away from the rest of the country will be presented to Parliament this week.

North Cornwall MP Dan Rogerson will unveil a Bill which would give the county control over its own affairs, wrestling power away from Whitehall and "unelected regional quangos".

The move comes less than four months after the launch of Cornwall's new unitary council, which many hoped would act as the catalyst for greater devolution of power to the area.

Mr Rogerson's planned legislation would give Cornwall greater responsibility in areas such as agriculture, heritage, education, housing and economic sustainability.

"I believe strongly that Cornwall should re-assert its rightful place within the United Kingdom," he said.

"Cornwall is a unique part of the country, and this should be reflected in the way that it is governed.

"We should have the right to determine areas of policy that affect the people of Cornwall the hardest, such as rules on housing."

MPs in Cornwall have mounted a long-running campaign against the housing targets imposed in the Regional Spatial Strategy plan which proposes 68,500 homes for the county.

The Liberal Democrats argue that local people are better-placed to decide where homes should go.

St Ives MP Andrew George claimed the county had become a "developers' paradise" without building enough affordable homes.

In the Government of Cornwall Bill, to be presented to Parliament tomorrow, Mr Rogerson hopes to "demonstrate to the House of Commons that there is a political and social will for Cornwall to be recognised as its own nation".

He added: "Constitutionally, Cornwall has the right to a level of self-government. If the Government is going to recognise the right of Scotland and Wales to greater self-determination because of their unique cultural and political positions, then they should recognise ours."

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dick Cole Mebyon Kernow

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Liberal Democrat MP Dan Rogerson today tabled a ‘Government of Cornwall’ Bill in the House of Commons.

Dan’s call for powers to be devolved to Cornwall and the very concept of a ‘Government of Cornwall’ Bill is to be welcomed. It is our hope that this will help to reinvigorate the debate about the need for a Cornish Assembly.

Sadly, the bill is flawed and fails to understand or make any distinctions between regional government for Cornwall and local government. The Bill proposes that powers equivalent to the Welsh Assembly should be transferred to the new Cornwall Council which would somehow also continue as a local council.

The reality is that Cornwall’s new unitary authority is a local government body – no different in legal terms, for example, to the 22 unitary councils which operate in Wales beneath the Welsh Assembly.

It makes no sense for the functions of local government (Cornwall Council) and regional government (Cornish Assembly) to sit within one body.

Cornwall needs the greatest devolution possible to a powerful Cornish Assembly (pulling down powers from regional quangos and central government) AND democratically-elected local government, delivering good quality public services.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Develution for Cornwall? - Government of Cornwall Bill?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from Cornwall24:-

"Dear all

I hope that no-one minds me giving an opinion from outside Cornwall.

My first thought was that this was a political stunt following what is seen outside Cornwall as being a good result for MK (the 'beating Labour into 6th' line was repeated with regularity on Euro election night), but having seen the Bill I'm less sure – a 30-odd page Bill does take a fair amount of work, even if much of it is 'lifted' from other devolution Acts (and why not, no-need to re-invent the wheel etc.).

Whatever you think of the actual contents of the Bill, it is a marker in the sand, and MK must articulate what they could do that would be more or better than what Dan Rogerson has done.

But there also needs to be a sense of realism about what this Bill can achieve.

It has been introduced as a Private Members' Bill just before the Summer recess and will be debated on Friday, 16th October. Or, not debated, as the case may be. The Bill is placed at number #58 in the list of business that day – http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmfbusi/a01.htm .

Normally, Private Members' Debates, which run from 09:30 until 14:30, will be lucky to reach the third Bill on the list. In short, don't get your hopes up that there'll be any sort of discussion on this. In fact, whatever discussion or publicity that was going to be gotten has just happened.

The Bill will then fall when the session of Parliament ends in early November, although it can be re-introduced when Parliament starts again.

But, in terms of actually taking steps forward, what has Dan Rogerson achieved, other than some press inches, by releasing the Bill now?

Would it not have been better to have published it in draft form and consulted with people across Cornwall as to exactly what they would have wanted to see in the Bill (I'm presuming by the lack of reference by anyone in this thread that this didn't take place)?

Would it not have been a far more compelling argument to have gone to Westminster with a Bill agreed with cross-party and wide public support?

Some have questioned Lib Dem commitment on previous pages. As an outsider, I can't comment, but I was surprised to see that only Rogerson himself was sponsoring the Bill. Private Members' Bills are often sponsored by a handful of MPs who are affected in some way by the contents of the Bill – usually cross-party as well, so where are the rest of Cornwall's MPs? Not interested? Not asked? A question for Dan Rogerson, I suppose.

I don't imagine for a minute that the Plaid Cymru MPs would not have supported this, if asked.

In my opinion, MK's stance on the Bill is a perfectly fair one regarding the actual role it plays - as Dick Cole says on his blog, the Bill suggests one all-powerful body that performs the role of Welsh unitary authorities and the Welsh Assembly (for reference, the Welsh Assembly has 60 AMs).

Personally, I think that one body performing so many roles leads to a democratic deficit (and, well, you tell me, maybe the unitary authority is already doing that) – after all, if there's only one body, then to whom do you turn when there's a problem?

Anyway, an outsider's viewpoint, but hopefully something for you to chew on. Any comments or explanations of what I've misunderstood gratefully received!"

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I think the important thing is that Dan has put forward the bill that others have talked about ad nauseum on this site and others. It's surely what most people on this site and within Cornwall desire. The line has indeed been 'drawn in the sand' and it's the most important thing that has happened for Cornish self-determination in a long time. Let's stop questioning this monumental act and get behind it to ensure progress. Thanks Dan for putting Cornwall's future first.

This pales most other things discussed on here into insignificance:: let's stop questioning and 'get on with it'
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cornish question

This is worth listening to, its a couple of hours though....so good to have on in the background Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BJyTgtZgSo

A Cornish MP has proposed the creation of a new Cornish Assembly in a bill to be put before the UK Parliament, but as Ian Beaumont reveals in this edition of Viewpoint, the idea of a Cornish assembly usually gets a cold reception.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6165409484861928372

A film about the constitutional status of Cornwall and its film industry. Interviews with: Harry Ferris, Dr Nigel Hicks of the Cornish Stannary Parliament and Dan Rogerson MP


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVMTY8beJy8

Government of Cornwall - The Cornish Assembly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8fxi60I8fY

The Constitutional Status of Cornwall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edj7gRxHGtc

50 interesting facts about the Cornish and the Constitutional Status of Cornwall (Kernow)


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject: Celtic League Reply with quote

CELTIC LEAGUE PRESS INFORMATION

GOVERNMENT OF CORNWALL BILL PROVOKES DEBATE

"Constitutionally, Cornwall has the right to a level of self-government. If the
Government is going to recognise the right of Scotland and Wales to greater
self-determination because of their unique cultural and political positions,
then they should recognise ours."

These were the words of a Member of the Westminster Parliament for Cornwall, Dan
Rogerson, ahead of his presentation of a parliamentary bill of law in the House
of Commons earlier this month. According to Mr Rogerson, the `Government of
Cornwall Bill' - presented to the House of Commons for its first reading on 14th
July - intends to give Cornwall greater responsibility in areas such as
agriculture, heritage, education, housing and economic sustainability. The MP
said that he hopes the bill will "demonstrate to the House of Commons that there
is a political and social will for Cornwall to be recognised as its own nation".

The leader of Cornwall's nationalist party however, Mebyon Kernow – the Party
for Cornwall, has argued that the bill is flawed and contains some fundamental
errors. Councillor Dick Cole said that the bill:

"…fails to understand or make any distinctions between regional government for
Cornwall and local government". Cllr. Cole goes on to suggest that Mr Rogerson
is mistaken to think that Cornwall Council could have all the powers of the
Welsh Assembly transferred to it and still continue as a local council, adding
that:

"The reality is that Cornwall's new unitary authority is a local government body
– no different in legal terms, for example, to the 22 unitary councils which
operate in Wales beneath the Welsh Assembly."

The introduction of the bill comes just four months after Cornwall changed its
administrative status from a `county' to a `single unitary authority' council in
a move that was largely unpopular among the Cornish electorate, but strongly
supported by the Liberal Democrat led council at the time.
In support of his bill, Mr Rogerston - who is also a Liberal Democrat - argued:

"I believe strongly that Cornwall should re-assert its rightful place within the
United Kingdom,"

"Cornwall is a unique part of the country, and this should be reflected in the
way that it is governed.

"We should have the right to determine areas of policy that affect the people of
Cornwall…"

Despite being administered politically as an English council and in addition to
its place as one of the six Celtic nations, Cornwall also has a distinct
constitutional status as a Duchy, giving it an array of unique legal and
political rights that have not been exercised to their full extent in living
memory, but are arguably - and for the most part - still valid. This latter fact
alone should be enough for Cornwall to be given special administrative powers by
Westminster along the lines of the Welsh assembly. This was recognised to an
extent earlier this year when the British Irish Council voted for Cornwall to
have observer status at meetings on the request of the Welsh Minister for
Heritage Alun Ffred Jones.

The Government of Cornwall bill was read for the first time on 14th July and
will be read for the second time on Friday 16 October (Bill 132)The full text
of the bill can be found at the link below:

http://www.danrogerson.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/cornwall.pdf

(Article prepared for Celtic News by Rhisiart Tal-e-bot)

J B Moffatt
Director of Information
Celtic League
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